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Warren_GdaDate: Sunday, 07/June/2009, 3:53 PM | Message # 1
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Hi dudes smile

I have one question.

Is somebody able to make POMOR for the English version of Cossacks?

Or smth similar?

Thanks for answer.


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EbelAngelDate: Monday, 08/June/2009, 0:20 AM | Message # 2
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Yes we are able to make something like POMOR , but have you noticed that the russian version of POMOR is nowhere to be found on my downloads section?
That should have make some bells ring, but I'll explain anyway.... Pomor is considered a cheat in the cossacks community, sorry, i mean pomor IS a cheat...since not everyone has that so if one player possesses pomor he has superiority over the other player.(eg. shift click = 50 drags in diplo instead of 5 and a limit of 2000 drags instead of 1000,...) Thats one tool I will not put for download on my site.....

Why do you need POMOR anyway? I mean if its to counter the russians with their pomor, well then you are no better than them.

I'm sorry if this seems like a harsh answer, but thats how it is...

End of story...

However, if you say something similar, and then we are talking about the few good small changes pomor makes like beeing able to see who puts the game on pause ( which is not a cheat) I might consider it, cause it can be annoying if someone keeps on pressing pause and making the game unplayable. But anything that gives superiority over the other players that dont have this I simply can't be bothered.

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Warren_GdaDate: Monday, 08/June/2009, 11:00 AM | Message # 3
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Hi Angel,

Yes, It's cheat, but cheat which uses by all russian player, even on the best Csx league. LCN.

Look, all can download russian pomor from site of this league. (link deleted by EbelAngel~no links to cheats on my forum)

So, cheat uses by the best players is still cheat? Russians say that is no cheat, they think it is only mini modification to increase pleasure from the game.

In league we play rules with 1000000 resources in start, in diplomatic centre we have to click about 80x when we want to buy dragoons (mc) ;/ Russians click 10x less!

Trick with pause is good too smile

Sorry for my bad english.

Pozdro!


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Message edited by EbelAngel - Monday, 08/June/2009, 1:17 PM
 
EbelAngelDate: Monday, 08/June/2009, 1:16 PM | Message # 4
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Hi again,

I'm glad you agree with me that it is a cheat.

There was no need to post a link to the russian pomor version ( which i will delete in minute). I'v known this programm for a long time now.

It's not because the russians use this in their League ( which says alot about that league aswell) that we should promote the use of this.

I feel like I already explained why i will not put either the russian version for download , nor will i create another english version of this tool.

Now about your comment about 'cheat used by the best players is still cheat'. Ofcourse, think why they are 'the best' players, simply because they have superiority over other players that dont possess this tool. A cheat is always a cheat no matter who uses it. And in my eyes, someone who needs a cheat to be the 'best player' isnt really the best player, but a plain cheater.

I dont give a damm what the russian cheaters say, its a cheat. point. end of story

I will not help you with this.


 
Warren_GdaDate: Monday, 08/June/2009, 9:54 PM | Message # 5
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This matter is not easy ;/
When russians player use this, sometimes in games we have bugs with connection and muskeeters formation. It's not fair for players who use english, polish, france or german version. It is mainly cause why I wrote to you. But I understand you.

Thx for your thought about Pomor. smile

Buuut....

Maybe you can make Pomor without option "50" ?


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EbelAngelDate: Tuesday, 09/June/2009, 1:59 AM | Message # 6
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Well

An english version of 'pomor' will not solve the problem of the connection errors ( which is caused by storing to much short messages eg. typing a hotkey it would automatically bring a message in game ---Market--- or ---Market done--- without having to type it). On the contrary, it will only increase the amount of errors.

I can only suggest you dont play with Russian players to avoid this. I tend to avoid them when i see them, cause I'v learned most of them or either bad loosers (locking the game when they are loosing), they talk a language i dont understand or they cheat. I'm sorry for the honest russian players, but thats how it is.

What is quite interesting is that you say you have problems with the musketeer formations. I'v heard this before but haven't been able to pinpoint it down to the use of Pomor. Can you proof this or show me some kind of ( indirect) evidence ? ( in the form of autorecords, ...)

I know its not fair they use Pomor against us who own a non russian version, but hey...at least you know what kind of people russians are then...

I dont think i will make a clean version of Pomor as from there its a small matter adding ' the cheats' back in to it.

I have better things to do than this.

I dont mind talking about it, because it shows other people what a fraud the russians players that use this really are.

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